Yan: Mark, I am looking at the news from today and from the last couple of days I am seeing some interesting things. For example – are you familiar with what’s happening in the Ukraine.. and with the Crimean peninsula?

Mark: Yes, I am somewhat familiar, I am probably not as familiar as you are, but yeah..

Yan: Yeah, you see I am closer to where the events are but I get my news from the same sources – I read the newspapers, I watch TV (sometimes), and I check the Drudge report… and what I am seeing currently is that Barack Obama has been trying to claim that the referendum in Crimea was illegal but on the other hand he is quite happy to work with the new government in Ukraine which in itself was not elected democratically, it was a coup basically… so he is saying that people who compare Crimea and the referendum which happened in Crimea should not say that Crimea was legal but the referendum in Kosovo, for example, was not legal, because theses were different things – he is saying that the referendum in Kosovo was fully legal [but] the problem with that is that there was no referendum in Kosovo, as far as I know, and this is what I’ve read in the news, so what is happening now is that the President is openly saying something, which we know not to be true – there was never a referendum in Kosovo – so what do you think this is saying about the way he is making his decisions and the facts that he is using for his decision-making?

Mark: Well, that’s a good question, you know my area of focus is the Billy Meier information and that’s where most of my knowledge comes from.. and ironically the Meier material praises the President a lot. Now personally, I don’t have that particular point of view – maybe eventually the Meier material will convince me otherwise, maybe there is just something I don’t understand but to me – what I see as happening is we are entering into something that’s called the 3rd Millennium and the Meier material talks about the prophecies and predictions of the 3rd Millennium and it goes all the way back to when Sfath was having his first meetings with Billy… and I don’t know how much your listeners know about the Billy Meier case… first of all, Eduard Albert Meier – he is a 76 years old Swiss farmer, he has had extraterrestrial contact for decades now and his contacts go all the way back to 1945, he was a very young boy in a region of Switzerland called Bulach, Switzerland and one day he was in the forest looking into a creek with some fish swimming in the creek – he had a deep love for the forest, and now out of corner of his eye came this silvery pear-shaped craft out of the sky, which hovered inches above the field and this elderly man stepped out, and walked over, and brought young Billy back to the ship. This was the first meeting of a whole series of meetings for the next 11 years and one of the things Sfath taught Billy is that in 1945 when the US dropped the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki we entered into something called the 3rd Millennium and in the 3rd Millennium, the people of the Earth would have corrupt leadership and the leaders would make self aggrandizing and megalomaniacal decisions – they would be psycho-pathological and we saw that in Bush; and I think we are seeing in the current President the same kinds of things. And one of the things they are doing during this time is removing people’s self-determination so what we are seeing in the US is an attack on our freedom of speech, on our right to bear arms, on our right to a fair trial, and I think all of these events that are occurring in the world today are a part of the Global elite really taking away the self-determination of the people and trying to set up this World government…

Yan: I can just agree with you on this one – the situation has been changing rapidly for the worse currently, and I believe many of us were living with the fantasy that the world is all right and democracy is working, the media is working, the democratic process is working but, I believe, people are slowly waking up at the moment. Hopefully, we would be able to control this situation. I’ve been wondering for a few years – why do we as people tolerate two party political systems – this is the case in the US, this is the case in many other countries across the world. Usually in business when we have less that a few, say 5, major players in a market, we start talking about Oligopolies or maybe even Cartels and this is always bad for the market for the prices, so why, do you think, Mark, we are putting up with a two party political system?

Mark: Well, part of the removal of the people’s self-determination is the use of mind control. And I think our societies are heavily mind controlled. There is a really good film out – it’s called “A Globalist Agenda for a Dumbed Down Domesticated Society” by a researcher named Alan Watt. It is really interesting that you bring this up, because another guy that I have interviewed on my radio show Allan Weisbecker – we did a show on the Apollo moon landings – and the Meier material says the Apollo… much of the Apollo 11 moon landings were hoaxed… and if you look at this information and if you analyze it step-by-step, for example, and the story in the Appolo 13… and I’ve kind of gone off on a tangent, back to your question.. you know these guys were supposed to have run into some technical problem on their way back from the moon and they moved from the command module into the lunar lander. Before they did that, they took off their space suits supposedly and the all went into this lunar landing module – the LEM… and now the interesting thing about the LEM is that its skin is only about as thick as two or three strands of Reynold’s wrap aluminum foil, so we are told that these guys survived in space with the only protection being this Reynold’s wrap more or less, I mean, the engineers of the LEM would tell you you could stick your finger trough it, so these guys allegedly survived for three days in the highly radioactive environment of space and who knows what the temperatures were in deep space, I’ve seen that it is extremely cold, and they only had enough power, supposedly, on that ship to power this little fan, which was keeping the air moving in there… The whole story is so absurd – what I am trying to talk about, the point I am trying to make is that the World is under a kind of mind control and that’s why we tolerate, for example, the two party system, you know – it’s just a joke…nothing can get done in that two party system, and then both sides are controlled by the Elite anyway…So what is happening, and I always go back to the Meier material, and Billy he has a book – it’s called the Goblet of Truth – and it says [that] during the 3rd Millennium people would become indolent and obtuse, so that’s what is happening – we are kind of in a dumbed-down state and we are under mind control and that’s why… well.. I will give you a perfect example – I ask people questions in my daily life like, for example, I’ll ask people at work and at various other locations if they are keeping up with what is going on at the Fukushima – I’ve only had four people out of 26 now that even knew what Fukushima was, so anyway, that is the point, I am trying to make….

Yan: Well, people are busy with their daily lives so sometimes we shouldn’t ask too much from them.. but Fukushima is a good example and there are other examples of strange things happening around us and people seem oblivious to those. That is a very strange thing, we would watch TV, watch football, watch other things but not care about things, which may actually impact us now or in the near future. May I ask you personal question, Mark… you are working, you a [software] programmer working for a big company – do you ever discuss the Billy Meier situation with your colleagues, how do they take this [info]….

Mark: No, I don’t bring this up. But.. I do bring up issues like Fukushima and things like that… I don’t think people are ready for, you know, people that are “in the Matrix” are not ready for this kind of thing…

Yan: Yeah, it’s my observation as well – you should wait for people to start waking up and start showing interest in some topics and then you can feed them some information, if you have that.. but never push it… I’ve been trying to do that with 9/11 for a few years now, not sure what is your opinion on 9/11, but as far as I am concerned there were probably some controlled demolitions involved with 9/11 at some point, what do you think about that?

Mark: I agree. I think the War on Terror was planned out ahead of time and the collapse of the 2 towers was planned out ahead of time and that there were people within our own government that knew it was gonna happen… controlled demolition? – very likely. I don’t think if that building was just hit by that aircraft, that that aircraft alone would have brought the building down, so my understanding is that the Project for the New American Century… the NeoCons have planned out all of these wars that we have been in – Afghanistan, Iraq, everything…

Yan: It would appear that way… and I don’t want to talk too much about 9/11 but we have to remember that 3 building came down – 3 tall buildings came down. One of them was building 7, which was not hit by an airplane and I think that this is the red flag – if you just take a look at that – it is almost impossible for.. I’m not am engineer or an architect but it seems almost impossible for a building to come down into its own footprint, at free-fall speed without the use of [controlled] demolition. I want to ask you a trick question regarding 9/11 and it concerns Billy Meier – I read through some of the FAQ and his responses and 9/11 is sometimes mentioned – He claims… or his alien friends claim.. that 9/11 was basically a terrorist plot, which was done by Arab terrorist and that no controlled demolition was involved – have you encountered some of those explanations by Billy?

Mark: I’ll have to go back and look at that. You know I come across things in the Meier case that I just read and I go “whoa” , you know, I am really surprised to hear that they would say that… they say things like that in regards to chemtrails and in some of the later contacts they explain chemtrails as the result of, and I hope I don’t quote this wrong… there has been a change in the atmosphere of Earth and I think to the negative and that is what is causing this chemtrails to persist. They argue that we are not being sprayed but, boy… somebody stop it

Yan: Yeah, there have been some strange inconsistencies but I should tell you his story is just fascinating. For one guy… one-armed farmer from Switzerland to come up with such an extraordinary wealth of information is just amazing.. so I love listening to your shows. I wanted to mention something, which is also current – there is a movie now in theaters called “Noah” and I just read on the Drudge report that it has opened to a 50 mil revenue and it’s the biggest opening of all time in Russia, for example – so it is a hit movie. Do you have something to add to that in terms of Billy Meier’s contact information?

Mark: Good question. I am still trying to sort out all the information that Meier has about Noah. I will do my best here. The first thing that Billy mentions is that Noah – his real name was Noahkodnosser and he was about 3m and 10 cm tall – that makes Noah over 10ft tall, so his head would be higher than a basketball rim and he would be towering over the tallest people in the NBA, if you can imagine that…

Yan: So he is not exactly Russell Crowe, he is not even the same height, is he?… he used to be much taller than that according to these guys’ material…

Mark: right, right…

Yan: … and when did he live? Did he live in the time mentioned in the Bible or was it, maybe, prior to that?

Mark: Much prior to that! According to the Meier material much of the information about the story of Noah has been falsified. It says that the arc was actually… actually this whole event took place somewhere about 100 000 years ago. The arc landed some 30 km away from Ararat and the animals, a lot of the animals like the large four footed animals could have never climbed down from mount Ararat so after this great flood 100k years ago these animals, they got out of the arc, but at a much lower level than way up there at the summit of mount Ararat. Now there was an extraterrestrial that told Noah about this whole issue of this flood, and btw there were multiple floods on the Earth and we can get into that if you like… I think this extraterrestrial’s name was rather strange… Zebalon.. or something like that.. who explained the approaching danger to Noah and I think the flood was caused by a comet. Anyway, this extraterrestrial advised Noah to build the arc and eventually the arc was built but the extraterrestrial that Noahkadnosser had interaction with became unnamed and he was elevated to a god and the story and some of the details around the story have been changed throughout the years, but according the Meier material this occurred a hundred thousand years ago.

Yan: It is rather different than what is mentioned in the Bible and I think it’s even more fascinating than what is mentioned in the Bible. And our entire history is much more fascinating than what is mentioned in the Bible – do you think you could recall and mention some of the floods and catastrophes that happened on Earth in the last, say, 200 000 years?

Mark: Yes, I’ll try, see what I can do: there is one that I find particularly interesting – Billy had contacts, his second set of contacts that lasted 11 years, with a woman named Asket and she was allegedly an extraterrestrial from a parallel universe to ours called the DAL universe and supposedly both our universes were created 46 trillion years ago, anyway, Asket’s people are know as the Timmers and they are also descendents of the Lyrians just like the Plajaren. They migrated into this parallel universe in the ancient, ancient past and they populated this parallel universe, anyway, in Billy’s fourth contact with Asket she gave him a bit of a history lesson and she told him that there was a king.. I believe his name was king Saluk? And he had a son – a seer named Sardin who 300 years prior to this event foresaw this very large comet coming into this solar system. And the comet itself was followed by, I think, six other or seven other smaller comets, anyway, in his vision that he had (Sardin) he saw this great comet come past the Earth, which kind of turned the Earth and caused this massive flood and he told his father about it – his father who was this very powerful king at the time. So for 300 years before this event occurred, which I believe occurred in 9545 B.C. they started preparing – they had 300 hundred years to prepare for the great deluge so they stocked all this food and water underneath the Great pyramid and into these old cubicle constructions that were far below the Great pyramid. So when the event occurred, the people were spared. That was 9545 B.C. and that was one of the other flood events that occurred. There was another flood that occurred around 4600 B.C. , which I think the time flood, the true flood that occurred in the Bible – that is the correct date but the stories, I think, over the years have become all mixed up together.

Yan: …and as far as remember at least one of those two, which you mentioned 9k or 4k years ago…sorry.. was it years ago or before Christ?

Mark: 9545 B.C.

Yan: All right, so I think at least one of those was related to the Destroyer comet, which is sometimes mentioned in the material. It has been coming around quite a lot and I am not sure if it is still in our [solar] system but probably it was altered, maybe its course was altered a little bit…

Mark: Right, I think the Plejaren did alter the course. I don’t think it’s going to be coming back trough our system anymore…

Yan: That’s good news! However we have another threat and I think that they mention a Red meteor.. or a comet, which should be coming to Earth soon – do you have any information on this one?

Mark: I think it’s called Apophis.

Yan: All right, so it is the comet, which should be coming here in about 10-15 years?

Mark: Maybe 20, I don’t know, I think it’s in Contact report 475 they talk about this comet called Apophis. And I think the Russians have already acknowledged its existence… NASA won’t for whatever reason. I think it shall hit the Earth in the year 2029.. or maybe it will miss just barely. And they say if it misses in 2029 that it will reappear in 2036…

Yan: Unless we [get] our act together and, I guess, do something about it…

Mark: Right, It will be interesting to see if this really happens…

Yan: Hopefully it won’t, I am hoping that we will wake up prior to that and [get] our act together and avoid any such major catastrophes. You know, we are so busy fighting each other and creating terrorist attacks and what not and we are just living in a crazy world…

Mark: I don’t know if you are aware of some of the things that happened this past summer in the US but we had these incredible forest fires. And they were prophesied in contact 215. One of them was 400sq. miles, if you can imagine a forest fire that large…

Yan: It sounds quite large and let me remind you that we just had an earthquake in Los Angeles, I think it was – a 5.1 earthquake…

Mark: Really?

Yan: Yeah, Los Angeles… and quite a few aftershocks and scientists say that they are also preparing for a bigger one…

Mark: …this is contact 104!..

Yan: Yeah, and that reminds me of some of the Billy Meier contact information – he mentions an earthquake – was it related to Los Angeles or was it San Francisco?

Mark: I think it’s San Francisco. I think it’s contact 104 that talks about that. My friend Larry Driskoll has translated Contact report 104 and I think I covered it quickly in the show one day… you know that’s the problem with the Meier material – there is so much information and I in particular like to review a lot, because, I think, the real value in the material comes from connecting the dots so I don’t always want to move forward to new stuff all the time until I can really start to appreciate what’s there…

Yan: Sure, my observation is that you sometimes repeat things on the show, you repeat some items but then, let’s say, a week or two later when I try to think about that, well, I have forgotten already, so it is good that you repeat – we [have become] as you said obtuse and indolent, so we have become quite lazy at remembering, so thanks for repeating those items – we need that!

Mark: I am glad to hear you say that. I feel like I need it, because I don’t want my rate of forgetting to exceed my rate of learning. So the problem with trying to always get new material is that you start losing the old material and quite frankly some of his newest writings are so profound. Now the last time I was out at Michael Horn’s house, we were reading one those writings, what’s it called..The Might of Thoughts… I don’t know if you have heard of that book – it has been translated into English by Vivienne Legg and the other guys name, I forgot.. but it was so profound, he had printed out copies of certain chapters and we were reading it… and I’d come to my time to read, and I would read a whole section and I am like I could study that the rest of the day just to barely grasp what it was saying…The Meier material is like that.

Yan: It’s fascinating – I sometimes say to myself even if this material is not true, even if it is a product of Billy’s own imagination, it is still absolutely fascinating – it is probably better than most science fiction novels out there, or fantasy books, it is just fascinating to read and certainly there is a lot of positive things and positive philosophy in it. I have noticed that you focus most of your blog talks on history, which is good, I like that but there is also a lot of spirituality in Billy Meier’s material – have considered dedicating more time to the spiritual side of his contact material?

Mark: I am glad to hear you say that. That’s the part that is, man, just so amazing to me, when he starts to talk about the Creation and he starts to talk about the radiating love of the universal consciousness…

to be continued!

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